Tuesday, May 23, 2006

Okay, so has ANYONE ever used a dental dam?

If so, please 'fess up and read the post below and let me know what it's like.

I've been asking around since yesterday's post. No one I know has ever used them, so far as I can tell.

Really, is this just something people say you should do and NO ONE uses them? Surely there must be someone out there who has experienced sex with them?

Or is going down on a woman simply too delicious to give up, even if there is risk involved?

And speaking of which...had the iPod on random shuffle today and heard one of my favorite bands, singing what must be the singularly best song about oral sex, and one that surely should win some kind of award for best use of double-entendre. It's the kind of song where people who don't want to know will just think it's just a love song about a guy eager to see his girlfriend after having been away from her. The kind of song my Doris-Day-meets-Gidget mother would insist I was reading things into. But she doesn't read enough.

You can also go here to read the lyrics if you want.

Figured given the recent discussion, I'd share. Click the link two paragraphs above and enjoy (and let me know if you did). Ring-a-ding-ding-ding...

Hm, while I'm at it, ARE there any other songs specifically about oral sex? The only other one that comes immediately to mind is "Some Candy Talking" by Jesus & Mary Chain--and that one's fairly vague. (Lyrics to that one on this page, if you scroll down a ways.)


Anonymous TJ said...

1-Special Secret Song Inside (Red Hot Chili Peppers)
2-Walk this way (Aerosmith)
3-Brown Sugar (Rolling Stones)

Those are the three that popped in my head first. I'm sure there are many more. I'm sure Prince has at least ten songs extolling the beauty of cunnilingus (Cream?)

5/24/2006 1:42 AM  
Anonymous Neil said...

Just to show my ignorance -- and maybe society's lack of concern or fear of talking about it -- I have no idea what a dental dam looks like or how I would even use it. Maybe that's why most people are not concerned. There's never been an effort to convince anyone to use anything for oral sex in the same way as we've been taught to use a condom as a prevention of herpes, AIDS, etc.

5/24/2006 2:56 AM  
Blogger Evil Minx said...

I'm embarrassed to tell you that i am in the same position as Neil.

(Regarding a dental dam, that is... minds out of the gutter, people!)

Oh, and one more thing:
"The kind of song my Doris-Day-meets-Gidget mother would insist I was reading things into. But she doesn't read enough."

Syl -- I'm sure we're related.

5/24/2006 3:47 AM  
Anonymous Circe said...

Heh. I started out in all sincerity to comment that I knew a girl who's ex-husband's girlfriends's former girlfriend once almost used a dental dam... but it began to sound like The Compleat Urban Myth.


5/24/2006 7:34 AM  
Blogger Miss Syl said...

TJ: I don't actually know #1 for some reason, though I always liked TRHCPs. The other two are both songs I like, and yet I never made the connection. I'll have to go back and analyze the lyrics to make sure I think they're actually about oral. "How come you tastes so good?" could refer to a lot of things...But in general, I think I just kind of blurred over all the mumbling in the lyrics and didn't ever listen too hard in either case. Which is weird for me as I'm a huge lyrics freak.

Neil and Minx: In the photo in my post on Monday, the people are kissing through a dental dam. Or you could look here. I also believe they make flavored ones. Basically, just a very thin sheet of latex you can strech over the region in question before you start licking it.

5/24/2006 9:00 AM  
Blogger Miss Syl said...

Circe: Ha! Yeah, I'm beginning to suspect it really ought to be cataloged on Snopes.

Claim: Dental dams are used for safe sex.

Status: Undetermined. (Or maybe "unclassifiable veracity?")

I really want to know if the risk of infection is actual. I wonder if it's all kind of with-hunty. Everything is kind of iffy about it.

Here's one quote from a university health center (Barnard), for instance:

Although vaginal fluid ordinarily has a lower concentration of HIV or Hepatitis B than semen or blood, just how risky ingesting it remains an open question. We can say this: not using a dental dam exposes you to whatever risk there is.

Basically, we're talking not enough statistical/scientific testing here. So, like, either we're all ignoring the risk and increasing STD transmission significantly, or we're all feelin paranoid when we don't have to be.

I'd like to know which it is.

In general, stats seem to indicate that penises transmit things more often than vaginas or anuses (anii?). But that doesn't put the "innies" in the clear, really. Maybe they've just researched sex with penile insertion most. Maybe if there were a comparison to promiscuity of genders, or percentage of use of each act, the transmission percentages for each would be about equal. But who knows.

All I know is I'd like to be able to have oral sex and not worry about it, either way. And it's looking like whichever path one takes, you don't win in that arena.

5/24/2006 9:13 AM  
Blogger Miss Syl said...

Um, that was "witch-hunty." I'd repost, but I'll be late for work, if I take the time to code all those links again.

5/24/2006 9:14 AM  
Blogger Shon Richards said...

At the risk of sounding like an urban myth story, some kinky lesbian friends of mine insist on using it and they always hate doing it. The consider going dam-less to be the appeal of a committed relationship.

5/24/2006 9:49 AM  
Blogger Rachel said...

Again, dam-less here. I've been more lucky than prudent when it comes to safe sex.
Oh, and songs about oral sex (woman to man): "Like a prayer" (Madonna); and possibly "Alphabet street" (Prince) (man to woman). More as they occur to me.
thanks for the link to my blog, btw. I'm sorry I don't have as much racy content as I used to...my parents are regular readers, and there's always the possibility of colleagues finding my blog, and I don't really want to share my oral sex tips with either of those categories....

5/24/2006 10:30 AM  
Blogger Karl Elvis said...

I can't say I've ever used one, and in fact the only time I ever *saw* one used was when a friend of mine was going down on a stripper/hooker in a strip club, which seemed like a good idea.

I dunno. Flavor is so damned important. It's like eating something that looks like your favorite food but tastes like air.

5/24/2006 12:53 PM  
Blogger Darkneuro said...

I had one used on me. Didn't like it. Never used one again. I just didn't know what they were and had to have it explained to me by Peter and Craig one very drunken D&D night.

5/24/2006 6:49 PM  
Anonymous TJ said...

Syl-Come on, Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good.........Brown Sugar, just like a young girl should. It's Mick paying homage to goin down on a sister. = )

Special Secret Song inside is on Uplift Mofo Party Plan, one of their earlier recordings, when they still had Hillel. It's not a great song lyrically, or musically, the verse is basically "I wanna party on your pussy Baby.........". But another RCHP song just came to mind which is very graphic regarding oral.......off, Blood Sugar Sex Magic, "Blush my lady when I tell her that I do indeed love to smell her sopping wet young pink umbrella" And later, on Apache Rose Peacock there's some pretty racy lyric as well.

But the best song about Oral still has to be Walk This way..........I'm not a huge Aerosmith fan, but when I was young I loved them, and the song, and now I know why. Their duet with RunDMC was fuckin awesome.

"hey diddle diddle put your kitty in the middle and ya swing like you just don't care"........"so I took a big chance at high school dance with a mistress who was ready to play, she said ya ain't seen nuthin till you're down on a muffin and you're sure to be a changing way" And earlier, "i was a high school loser never made it with the ladies till the boys told me something I missed. They said the best things are lovin tween a sister and her cousin and it started with a little kiss........."

5/24/2006 9:15 PM  
Blogger Miss Syl said...

All: Hm, still no first-hand accounts. It's all verrry suspicious. Maybe dental dams don't really exist; they're just a product of the collective paranoid imagination.

Thanks for the song recommendations. Some of them I've never thought of as songs about oral, but that just goes to show you. Though I will say in my book, a MENTION of or a hint about oral sex within a song is not the same as a whole song about oral sex. But that's probably being too picky.

Obviously, I need to go back and listen to some lyrics...

5/24/2006 11:17 PM  
Blogger Cherrie said...

I've had lots of oral sex with women. Never used a dam. I'm still alive. Should I be?

Loved the song, by the way. Going down on a lovely lady is a beautiful experience that I'm surprised hasn't inspired more melodies.

5/25/2006 8:34 PM  
Blogger Miss Syl said...

Okay, I'm getting very close to decreeing the whole dental dam thing a complete myth. No one uses them, except rumored friends of friends of lesbian friends.

5/25/2006 10:19 PM  

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